{"id":10591,"date":"2014-02-25T14:28:38","date_gmt":"2014-02-25T19:28:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/?p=10591"},"modified":"2014-02-25T14:28:38","modified_gmt":"2014-02-25T19:28:38","slug":"la-laicite-en-question-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/?p=10591","title":{"rendered":"La la\u00efcit\u00e9 en question 4"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>\n <o:OfficeDocumentSettings>\n  <o:AllowPNG\/>\n  <o:TargetScreenSize>1024x768<\/o:TargetScreenSize>\n <\/o:OfficeDocumentSettings>\n<\/xml><![endif]--><\/p>\n<p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>\n <w:WordDocument>\n  <w:View>Normal<\/w:View>\n  <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom>\n  <w:HyphenationZone>21<\/w:HyphenationZone>\n  <w:PunctuationKerning\/>\n  <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas\/>\n  <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false<\/w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>\n  <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false<\/w:IgnoreMixedContent>\n  <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false<\/w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>\n  <w:Compatibility>\n   <w:BreakWrappedTables\/>\n   <w:SnapToGridInCell\/>\n   <w:WrapTextWithPunct\/>\n   <w:UseAsianBreakRules\/>\n   <w:DontGrowAutofit\/>\n  <\/w:Compatibility>\n <\/w:WordDocument>\n<\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>\n <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState=\"false\" LatentStyleCount=\"156\">\n <\/w:LatentStyles>\n<\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]>\n\n\n<style>\n \/* Style Definitions *\/\n table.MsoNormalTable\n\t{mso-style-name:\"Tableau Normal\";\n\tmso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;\n\tmso-tstyle-colband-size:0;\n\tmso-style-noshow:yes;\n\tmso-style-parent:\"\";\n\tmso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;\n\tmso-para-margin:0cm;\n\tmso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;\n\tmso-pagination:widow-orphan;\n\tfont-size:10.0pt;\n\tfont-family:\"Times New Roman\";\n\tmso-ansi-language:#0400;\n\tmso-fareast-language:#0400;\n\tmso-bidi-language:#0400;}\n<\/style>\n\n\n<![endif]--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;\">La la\u00efcit\u00e9 en question 4<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-10396\" title=\"photo Michel Frankland 2\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/photo-Michel-Frankland-2-134x107.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"134\" height=\"107\" \/>\u00a0 par Michel Frankland<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">Dans le troisi\u00e8me article sur la charte de la la\u00efcit\u00e9, nous nous demandions dans quelle mesure l\u2019application de la charte pourrait provoquer un tel charivari social que la sagesse consisterait \u00e0 opter pour des mesures plus mod\u00e9r\u00e9es. Nous concluions qu\u2019il convient alors de comprendre la nature de l\u2019Islam. Car si l\u2019Islam et le christianisme se trouvent \u00e0 ce point proches th\u00e9ologiquement, n\u2019y a-t-il pas moyen d\u2019opter pour la voie du dialogue\u00a0? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">Or, la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 est bien diff\u00e9rente. En fait, l<strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">\u2019Islam et le Christianisme diff\u00e8rent profond\u00e9ment<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\">1.<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\"><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>Par essence<strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">, le concept de la\u00efcit\u00e9 est incompatible avec l\u2019Islam<\/strong>\u00a0: \u00ab<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;\">\u00ab N\u2019ob\u00e9is pas \u00e0 celui dont Nous avons rendu le coeur insouciant envers Notre Rappel de la vraie religion \u00bb (Coran 18, 28). Dans les pays \u00e0 majorit\u00e9 musulmane, il n\u2019est pas question<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>de gouvernance autre que musulmane.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Dans la m\u00eame veine, les Islamistes citent volontiers un dictat de Mahomet tir\u00e9 de la Sunna (i.e., de la Tradition)\u00a0: \u00abL\u2019islam domine et ne saurait \u00eatre domin\u00e9.\u00bb <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; text-align: justify;\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\">2.<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;\">On m\u2019objectera les pays musulmans \u2013 entre autre l\u2019\u00c9gypte, l\u2019Irak, la Turquie, la Tunisie \u2013o\u00f9 l\u2019on a adopt\u00e9 le <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">mode d\u00e9mocratiques<\/strong>, avec \u00e9lections libres et, dans certains cas, le multipartisme.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Mais c\u2019est un leurre. Si les Islamistes ont consenti de bonne gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 ce \u00abmodernisme\u00bb, c\u2019est qu\u2019ils savent fort bien que la majorit\u00e9 populaire votera clairement pour le parti islamiste. En fait, les purs et durs gagnent sur les deux tableaux. Non seulement sont-ils au pouvoir, mais les voil\u00e0<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>forts d\u2019un mandat populaire. La volont\u00e9 d\u2019Allah affirm\u00e9e SANS CONTRAINTE ! C\u2019est de toute fa\u00e7on ce qui se passe dans les pays musulmans. Les enjeux \u00e9lectoraux opposent de jeunes intellectuels en mal de modifier l\u2019Islam vers une certaine modernit\u00e9, aux masses musulmanes qui ne con\u00e7oivent l\u2019Islam que pour ce qui en d\u00e9finit une exigence essentielle\u00a0: <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">l\u2019union intime du religieux et du politique<\/strong>. Et partout, les \u00e9lections<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>confirment massivement cette d\u00e9finition de l\u2019Islam.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; text-align: justify;\">\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\">3.<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;\">Pour l\u2019islam, Dieu n\u2019est pas un p\u00e8re<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;\">. Un voisin musulman \u00e0 qui je r\u00e9cite le Notre P\u00e8re, croyant que nous avons l\u00e0 une base commune. Il m\u2019interrompt assez s\u00e8chement\u00a0: \u00abDieu n\u2019est pas un p\u00e8re !\u00bb On comprend cette affirmation quand on nous r\u00e9v\u00e8le que le concept de personne d\u00e9coule du christianisme et de sa foi aux trois Personnes de la Trinit\u00e9. Mais l\u2019id\u00e9e de personne n\u2019existe pas dans le Coran.<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\"> C\u2019est m\u00eame une notion \u00e9trang\u00e8re \u00e0 la langue arabe\u00a0! L\u2019arabe reconna\u00eet la notion d\u2019individu, en ce sens qu\u2019un \u00eatre humain n\u2019est pas un autre \u00eatre humain. Mais la notion de personne suppose l\u2019autonomie, et partant toutes ces libert\u00e9s incompatibles avec l\u2019Islam. <\/p>\n<p> Nous sommes donc \u00e0 leurs yeux des polyth\u00e9istes\u00a0! La dignit\u00e9, et un certain bonheur, le musulman la trouve dans l\u2019Oumma, soit la communaut\u00e9 musulmane. Les autres individus et leur religion ne constitue qu\u2019un second ordre. D\u2019o\u00f9 la Dhimma, ou la mise en tutelle des non-musulmans, charg\u00e9s de lourdes taxes et objets de nombreuses vexations. C\u2019est effectivement cette mise en tutelle vexatoire des dhimmi que l\u2019Islam a appliqu\u00e9 aux pays conquis. Bref, chaque pays musulman, conquis de fraiche date ou non, forme une <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">communaut\u00e9 exclusive<\/strong> aux seuls musulmans. Les autres sont des seconds violons. Au mieux.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\">4.<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;\">Le Coran, dict\u00e9 par Dieu, ne souffre aucune interpr\u00e9tation. C\u2019est pourquoi <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">il n\u2019y a de th\u00e9ologie musulmane<\/strong>. <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"mso-tab-count: 1;\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/strong>La mosqu\u00e9e diff\u00e8re de l\u2019\u00e9glise. Dans notre culte, il y a un sacrifice. J\u00e9sus s\u2019immole<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>sur l\u2019autel, rappel efficace de la derni\u00e8re C\u00e8ne. Mais l\u2019Imam n\u2019est pas un pr\u00eatre musulman, notion tout \u00e0 fait \u00e9trang\u00e8re \u00e0 l\u2019islam. <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">L\u2019imam<\/strong> a pour fonction de <strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">diriger la pri\u00e8re<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;\">D\u2019autres diff\u00e9rentiations entre le christianisme et l\u2019Islam nous appara\u00eetront plus claires dans le cinqui\u00e8me article. Elles consolideront la solution que je vous proposerai.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\n\nvar addthis_config = {\"data_track_clickback\":false,\"data_track_addressbar\":false,\"data_track_textcopy\":false};\n<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"\/\/s7.addthis.com\/js\/250\/addthis_widget.js#pubid=f084fdfbcefba74c78dfad3bbc873ffd\"><\/script>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;\">La la\u00efcit\u00e9 en question 4<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u00a0 par Michel Frankland<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">Dans le troisi\u00e8me article sur la charte de la la\u00efcit\u00e9, nous nous demandions dans quelle mesure l\u2019application de la charte pourrait provoquer un tel charivari social que la sagesse <\/span>&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10591","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-accueil"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10591","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=10591"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10591\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10601,"href":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10591\/revisions\/10601"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=10591"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=10591"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=10591"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}