{"id":10086,"date":"2013-09-17T20:52:44","date_gmt":"2013-09-18T00:52:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/?p=10086"},"modified":"2013-09-17T20:52:44","modified_gmt":"2013-09-18T00:52:44","slug":"ecoute-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/?p=10086","title":{"rendered":"\u00c9coute -2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #00ccff;\"><strong>\u00c9coute -2<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em>\u00a0\u00a0<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-10071\" title=\"photo Michel Frankland 2\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/photo-Michel-Frankland-2-134x107.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"134\" height=\"107\" \/>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Par Michel Frankland \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>\n <o:OfficeDocumentSettings>\n  <o:AllowPNG\/>\n  <o:TargetScreenSize>1024x768<\/o:TargetScreenSize>\n <\/o:OfficeDocumentSettings>\n<\/xml><![endif]--><\/p>\n<p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>\n <w:WordDocument>\n  <w:View>Normal<\/w:View>\n  <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom>\n  <w:HyphenationZone>21<\/w:HyphenationZone>\n  <w:PunctuationKerning\/>\n  <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas\/>\n  <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false<\/w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>\n  <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false<\/w:IgnoreMixedContent>\n  <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false<\/w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>\n  <w:Compatibility>\n   <w:BreakWrappedTables\/>\n   <w:SnapToGridInCell\/>\n   <w:WrapTextWithPunct\/>\n   <w:UseAsianBreakRules\/>\n   <w:DontGrowAutofit\/>\n  <\/w:Compatibility>\n <\/w:WordDocument>\n<\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>\n <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState=\"false\" LatentStyleCount=\"156\">\n <\/w:LatentStyles>\n<\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]>\n\n\n<style>\n \/* Style Definitions *\/\n table.MsoNormalTable\n\t{mso-style-name:\"Tableau Normal\";\n\tmso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;\n\tmso-tstyle-colband-size:0;\n\tmso-style-noshow:yes;\n\tmso-style-parent:\"\";\n\tmso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;\n\tmso-para-margin:0cm;\n\tmso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;\n\tmso-pagination:widow-orphan;\n\tfont-size:10.0pt;\n\tfont-family:\"Times New Roman\";\n\tmso-ansi-language:#0400;\n\tmso-fareast-language:#0400;\n\tmso-bidi-language:#0400;}\n<\/style>\n\n\n<![endif]--><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpFirst\" style=\"margin-left: 22.7pt; mso-add-space: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">Nous avons consid\u00e9r\u00e9, dans le premier article sur l\u2019\u00e9coute, quatre mauvaises fa\u00e7ons d\u2019\u00e9couter. Les cinqui\u00e8me et sixi\u00e8me, on le constatera, sans \u00eatre agressives, s\u2019av\u00e8rent quelque peu d\u00e9ficientes. Surtout la cinqui\u00e8me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\" style=\"margin-left: 22.7pt; mso-add-space: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\" style=\"margin-left: 22.7pt; mso-add-space: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">&#8212;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\" style=\"text-indent: -18.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\">5.<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">L\u2019\u00e9coute parentale<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">. Recevoir l\u2019autre.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Mais en tant qu\u2019autre. Non comme un sosie de soi. Vous avez probablement re\u00e7u un cadeau de No\u00ebl inappropri\u00e9 d\u2019un oncle ou d\u2019une tante. Vous avez dit un gros merci quand m\u00eame, mais \u00e0 la fois triste et d\u00e9\u00e7u de ce manque d\u2019empathie. Ma sympathique \u00e9pouse s\u2019est montr\u00e9e un mod\u00e8le dans le domaine. Intuitive et g\u00e9n\u00e9reuse, ces cadeaux ont toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 accueillis<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>avec enthousiasme\u00a0: \u00abMerci\u00a0! C\u2019est exactement de quoi j\u2019avais besoin\u00a0! J\u2019\u00e9tais pour me l\u2019acheter d\u2019ailleurs.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>\u00c7a ne peut pas mieux tomber\u00a0!\u00bb <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">L\u2019\u00e9coute parentale, au contraire, CONNAIT le probl\u00e8me de l\u2019autre. Interruption\u00a0: \u00abJe vais t\u2019expliquer ton probl\u00e8me.\u00bb L\u2019autre est doublement frustr\u00e9. D\u2019abord, parce que tout \u00eatre humain est un oc\u00e9an d\u2019\u00e9motions. L\u2019autre a besoin de vider son sac de cette charge \u00e9motive qui a besoin de se dire, de s\u2019ext\u00e9rioriser. Il se trouve aussi que dans le dialogue dynamique entre ses propres sentiments en \u00e9bullition et les paroles qui les expriment, des \u00e9l\u00e9ments de la douleur int\u00e9rieure deviennent mieux \u00e9clair\u00e9s, plus compr\u00e9hensibles \u00e0 soi. L\u2019autre volet de la frustration provient de la projection grosse comme le bras qu\u2019on ass\u00e8ne, bien que sympathiquement, \u00e0 l\u2019autre. Beaucoup de sympathie\u00a0; peu d\u2019empathie.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">Je rappelle, dans ce sillage, un classique en psychologie, dont j\u2019ai \u00e9crit un mot dans ce journal il y a plusieurs ann\u00e9es. Aux trois instances freudiennes, intuitionne Harris dans <em style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">I\u2019m OK You\u2019re OK<\/em>, correspondent trois \u00e2ges de la vie. Le \u00c7a, si\u00e8ge de l\u2019instinct, correspond \u00e0 l\u2019enfance\u00a0; le moi, univers en nous de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9, \u00e0 l\u2019adulte\u00a0; le surmoi, ensemble des lois morales et principes de vie introject\u00e9s d\u00e8s l\u2019enfance, au parent. Ainsi, dans l\u2019intervention malencontreuse dont nous traitons ici, au lieu de faire na\u00eetre la seule relation efficace, soit celle entre deux adultes, l\u2019\u00e9coutant fait basculer la relation<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>de l\u2019\u00e9coute. C\u2019est L\u2019AUTRE qui maintenant doit \u00e9couter. Frustrations et rejet d\u2019une \u00e9coute qui ne le respectent pas<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\" style=\"text-indent: -18.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\">6.<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">L\u2019\u00e9coute \u00e9cho<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">. Abordons maintenant les deux sortes d\u2019\u00e9coutes pleinement dignes de ce nom. Karl Rogers, un nom qui a fait sa marque en psychologie, postule que chacun poss\u00e8de en soi les ressources, aussi secr\u00e8tes et ignor\u00e9es de la conscience soient-elles, pour se gu\u00e9rir soi-m\u00eame. Il vise cons\u00e9quemment \u00e0 agir comme catalyseur pour que l\u2019autre acc\u00e8de aux sources bienfaisantes menant \u00e0 l\u2019auto-gu\u00e9rison. L\u2019approche a \u00e9t\u00e9 reconnue pour les succ\u00e8s qu\u2019elle a permis. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">Mais qu\u2019arrive-t-il si, ayant bien servi d\u2019\u00e9cho \u00e0 l\u2019autre, vous percevez des solutions tellement \u00e9videntes\u00a0? Rogers, consid\u00e9rant absolu le cheminement de l\u2019autre, se dit que l\u2019autre demandera de l\u2019information si<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>cette requ\u00eate appara\u00eet dans son cheminement. Mais certains psys trouvent quelque peu incompl\u00e8te cette attitude trop attentiste \u00e0 leur go\u00fbt. Une farce r\u00e9probatrice court \u00e0 ce sujet\u00a0: \u00abLe bureau de ce psy rog\u00e9rien est situ\u00e9 au quatri\u00e8me \u00e9tage. Le patient entre, boulevers\u00e9\u00a0: \u00abDocteur, j\u2019ai envie de me suicider\u00a0! \u00bb &#8211; \u00abVous avez envie de vous suicider.\u00bb &#8211; \u00abDocteur, je pourrais me jeter par la fen\u00eatre\u00a0!\u00bb -\u00abVous pourriez vous jeter par le fen\u00eatre.\u00bb Le patient s\u2019\u00e9lance et plonge dans le vide. Le psy regarde et entend le bruit m\u00e2t sur le pav\u00e9. Il en fait l\u2019\u00e9cho consciencieusement\u00a0: \u00abPok\u00bb\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">Il demeure que cette m\u00e9thode, sans \u00eatre parfaite, constitue un progr\u00e8s tr\u00e8s net sur les autres. Elle fonctionne parfaitement avec bon nombre d\u2019individus.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpLast\" style=\"text-indent: -18.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;\"><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\">7.<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman';\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/strong><strong style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">L\u2019\u00e9coute interpersonnelle<\/span><\/strong><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">. Nous sommes ici au niveau de l\u2019\u00e9coute parfaite. L\u2019\u00e9coute interpersonnelle prend en compte les difficult\u00e9s de l\u2019autre. Elle se fait d\u2019abord sp\u00e9cialement attentive. Mais assume \u00e9galement sa propre personnalit\u00e9. Elle est AUSSI une personne. Elle est en \u00e9tat de dialogue. Le respect, ici, m\u2019appara\u00eet dans celui des deux personnes en cause. Car n\u2019y a-t-il pas un peu de \u00abd\u00e9sinfection des sentiments\u00bb, d\u2019occultation de la relation entre deux \u00eatres de m\u00eame nature, chez le rog\u00e9rien\u00a0? Et qu\u2019arrive-t-il si des solutions apparaissent chez \u00e9videntes au psychologue\u00a0? Il les propose. La d\u00e9licatesse se situe dans le ton. \u00abJ\u2019aimerais te proposer des \u00e9l\u00e9ments de solutions\u00bb. Si l\u2019autre s\u2019objecte, ce qui rarissime \u2013 il est venu chercher des solutions, ce pourrait \u00eatre parce qu\u2019il veut en parler davantage. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">L\u2019\u00e9coute, voie n\u00e9cessaire d\u2019une authentique bont\u00e9 et de la sant\u00e9 de l\u2019\u00e2me, s\u2019av\u00e8re plus complexe que nous le croyons g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>********************************************************************<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michel Frankland<\/strong><br \/> site de bridge jug\u00e9 incontournable par les experts<br \/> <a href=\"http:\/\/pages.videotron.ca\/lepeuple\/\"><strong>http:\/\/pages.videotron.ca\/lepeuple\/<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>____________________________________________________________<\/p>\n<p><strong>Christine Schwab<\/strong><br \/> psychologue comp\u00e9tente et extr\u00eamement honn\u00eate avec ses clients<br \/> (pas de prolongation inutile de traitement)<br \/> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cschwab.net\/\"><strong>www.cschwab.net<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>____________________________________________________________<\/p>\n<p><strong>Henri Cohen<\/strong><br \/> Un expert en pollution domestique et industrielle,<br \/> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.coblair.com\/\"><strong>www.coblair.com<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\n\nvar addthis_config = {\"data_track_clickback\":false,\"data_track_addressbar\":false,\"data_track_textcopy\":false};\n<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"\/\/s7.addthis.com\/js\/250\/addthis_widget.js#pubid=a457a6d63fb9e6ccabdde4110343bd85\"><\/script>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #00ccff;\">\u00c9coute -2<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Par Michel Frankland \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpFirst\" style=\"margin-left: 22.7pt; mso-add-space: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">Nous avons consid\u00e9r\u00e9, dans le premier article sur l\u2019\u00e9coute, quatre mauvaises fa\u00e7ons d\u2019\u00e9couter. Les cinqui\u00e8me et sixi\u00e8me, on le constatera, sans \u00eatre agressives, s\u2019av\u00e8rent quelque peu d\u00e9ficientes. Surtout la cinqui\u00e8me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\" style=\"margin-left: 22.7pt; mso-add-space: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\" style=\"margin-left: 22.7pt; mso-add-space: auto;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">&#8212;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"ParagraphedelisteCxSpMiddle\" style=\"text-indent: -18.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-ansi-language: FR;\" lang=\"FR\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\">5.<\/span><\/span>&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10086","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-accueil"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10086","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=10086"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10086\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10148,"href":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10086\/revisions\/10148"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=10086"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=10086"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.lecarrefourdesopinions.ca\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=10086"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}